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in the case of al-qaeda and the taliban if you could show that an individual was a member of al-qaeda or taliban then there may be some legal grounds to detain them and try them as an enemy combatant rather than in federal court. but this is masked in legal clothing. it's not actually a legal argument, and we shouldn't confuse these two things. the argument they're making is we should presume from the beginning that any incident involving islamic militancy is some how tied into al-qaeda. as i said, i've done research on this region and this particular conflict for 15 years. while the militants in chechnya have adopted al-qaeda ideology the connection is very slim and they have very different objectives that are very local very parochial and have a lot of to do with russia and very little to do with the united states. >> john: i agree and you're characterizing that as a political approach is profoundly diplomatic. scholar and attorney, christopher swift, thank you for coming tonight. >> thank you. >> john: thank you. one good thing may come out of the boston bombings. the violence is c
in the case of al-qaeda and the taliban if you could show that an individual was a member of al-qaeda or taliban then there may be some legal grounds to detain them and try them as an enemy combatant rather than in federal court. but this is masked in legal clothing. it's not actually a legal argument, and we shouldn't confuse these two things. the argument they're making is we should presume from the beginning that any incident involving islamic militancy is some how tied into al-qaeda. as i...
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are receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran. >> authorities do not say there seems to be a link between them and the boston marathon bomb -- bombings. >>> they are now allowing small knives on passenger flights. they want some feedback and others say it makes travel more confusing when the rules keep changing. >> i don't know, a knife is a knife regardless of how small it is. >> they are not saying if it is temporary or if or not. >>> the furloughs started as part of the suck quest terribled -- sequestered budget cuts. they had up to three hours of delays in los angeles. they have to take everyone unpaid day every week. we have learned san francisco has 38 control letters. oakland has 30 control letters and plans to furlough 30 to 4 a day. two to three will be furloughed daily. >>> we have a chance to see a furloughed plane and they will take off mountain view and it is a practice run for across country trip that starts on may 1st. >> it is considers to be -- considered to be flying without any fuel. >> i wish i could drive to work without any fuel. i need to get an
are receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran. >> authorities do not say there seems to be a link between them and the boston marathon bomb -- bombings. >>> they are now allowing small knives on passenger flights. they want some feedback and others say it makes travel more confusing when the rules keep changing. >> i don't know, a knife is a knife regardless of how small it is. >> they are not saying if it is temporary or if or not. >>> the...
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they used an al qaeda internet description of how to make a pressure cooker bomb. seth jones, a counterterror expert at the rand corporation, has analyzed the marathon attack and how it was pulled off. >> ad libbed part of it and made some decisions on a few elements of the bomb making. but what's different about this is they took a simple recipe and then targeted a -- the boston marathon. >> reporter: why the marathon? because, officials say, it was there, essentially. and easy. not long in the planning either. >> it does appear though that the younger brother had not become involved until later in the process, perhaps a week or so before the actual attack. >> reporter: jones says the brothers seemed to have been inspired by the internet preachings of anwar al awlaki, the charismatic american-born al qaeda jihadist who has been dead now more than a year and a half. >> the older brother appeared to be the more radicalized of the two and drove both the need to conduct the attack as well as the preparation of the attack, that is, building the bombs. >> reporter: as f
they used an al qaeda internet description of how to make a pressure cooker bomb. seth jones, a counterterror expert at the rand corporation, has analyzed the marathon attack and how it was pulled off. >> ad libbed part of it and made some decisions on a few elements of the bomb making. but what's different about this is they took a simple recipe and then targeted a -- the boston marathon. >> reporter: why the marathon? because, officials say, it was there, essentially. and easy....
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they go to the open arms of al-qaeda. it's counterproductive, plus it's killing the wrong people. when he talked about that, i had to be honest with you, it's a fairly gruesome description. >> the drone strikes as the face of america to many yemens. i have spoken to many victims of the u.s. drone strikes. i recently in arden i spoke one of the dribble leaders present in 2009 at the place where the u.s. cruise missiles targeted the village. 40 civilians from killed including four pregnant women. the tribal leader and others tried to rescued victims but their bodies were so designated that it was impossible to differentiate between the women children and their animals. >> i'm going to bring a panel in here. we have chris moody linda bade, and michael shure from "the war room." i know some of the drone strikes are a no brain center terms of not doing them with the signature strikes where we kill people who we don't even know we're killing it's gruesome, and by the way, it's a war crime. but when you look at the overall picture, linda first of all is this the quote/unquote wrong time
they go to the open arms of al-qaeda. it's counterproductive, plus it's killing the wrong people. when he talked about that, i had to be honest with you, it's a fairly gruesome description. >> the drone strikes as the face of america to many yemens. i have spoken to many victims of the u.s. drone strikes. i recently in arden i spoke one of the dribble leaders present in 2009 at the place where the u.s. cruise missiles targeted the village. 40 civilians from killed including four pregnant...
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even as boston struggles to piece it's a back together, canadian police announced they have foiled an al-qaeda terror plot in toronto. at this time there is no evidence that it was connected to boston. this morning funerals were held for two of the victims. >> 29-year-old krystle campbell, a restaurant manager who was at the marathon, cheering on her boyfriend. friends describe her as have kind heart and wry sense of humor, and there was a funeral for lingzi lu, a chinese citizen who had just written her final exams link. an eight year old boy martin richard was killed as was a police officer. today a thousand mourners turned out to pay their respect. the west borough baptist church has threatened to picket the funerals because gay marriage is legal in massachusetts. but 200 teamsters came out to protect the mourners and the protesters were nowhere to be seen. there was a moment of silence for the victims, the city of boston, white house, house, senate and new york stock exchange all stopped pay their respect. dzhokhar tsarnaev is at boston's hospital. he is on vaent late for and handcuffed to
even as boston struggles to piece it's a back together, canadian police announced they have foiled an al-qaeda terror plot in toronto. at this time there is no evidence that it was connected to boston. this morning funerals were held for two of the victims. >> 29-year-old krystle campbell, a restaurant manager who was at the marathon, cheering on her boyfriend. friends describe her as have kind heart and wry sense of humor, and there was a funeral for lingzi lu, a chinese citizen who had...
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we have al qaeda 2.0, that is not al qaeda central, led by the pediatrician who took the helm after osama bin laden died, calling the shots. we have an arabian peninsula, try recruit residents of the united states to do acts of terrorism, even if they are not on a grand scale. >> brian, you have spent, i believe, two decade, educating people about hate and extremism. at your web site at the center, you identify extremist web sites and not just... this type of extremism. it's very widespread and i bet the list has gotten longer over the years. what is the answer? that we can all get along and we don't have to have tragedies like this, based based on hate? >> you know, to engage in the thing that you are doing, i think, one of the things that is really worrisome is that on both sides of the political and ideological spectrum, people feel disjointed from community. when people opt out, particularly in large numbers that, creates a fertile breeding ground for treem extremism and violence. what we need to do is foster a relationship of people to society and these brothers -- they opted out. ti
we have al qaeda 2.0, that is not al qaeda central, led by the pediatrician who took the helm after osama bin laden died, calling the shots. we have an arabian peninsula, try recruit residents of the united states to do acts of terrorism, even if they are not on a grand scale. >> brian, you have spent, i believe, two decade, educating people about hate and extremism. at your web site at the center, you identify extremist web sites and not just... this type of extremism. it's very...
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melissa: the big question, is there any indication of any links to al qaeda? >> we learned this afternoon, so far in this investigation, and they are not far into their exploriningexecploring a -- expy see nothing yet to cause them to conclude they were acting on behalf of a chechen cause. there is a life style agazine that gives them what they call practical advice like thousand build the bomb, the bomb used in this case, pressure cooker bomb is laid out in the inspire magazine, that is an avenue they will go down to see whether they are true homegrown, islamic jihadists who got their training if you will all in a digital way. melissa: katherine thank you so much. all right on money, what we need to do to make sure a tragedy like boston does not happen again. but what is the cost of that? and can it actually work? stay with us, more "money"..lia. straight ahead. eate the future.. by clinging to the past. and with that: you're history. instead of looking behind... delta is looking beyond. 80 thousand us investing billions... in everything from the best experie
melissa: the big question, is there any indication of any links to al qaeda? >> we learned this afternoon, so far in this investigation, and they are not far into their exploriningexecploring a -- expy see nothing yet to cause them to conclude they were acting on behalf of a chechen cause. there is a life style agazine that gives them what they call practical advice like thousand build the bomb, the bomb used in this case, pressure cooker bomb is laid out in the inspire magazine, that is...
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al qaeda spokesman alan ghaddan today this. >> in the west you have got a lot at your disposal. let's take america as an example. america is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. you can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check and most likely without having to show an indication card. so what are you waiting for? >> michael: and the damn senate voted to allow this to continue. it's so frightening. even after the gun bill's defeat, democrats are working to change the law to keep guns out of the hands of terris. joe manchin of west virginia said round two of his gun control bill will include language that closes the terror loophole. the democrats should get it done, and if republicans try to stop them, they should call them out for what they are accomplices to terror. joining me now is "boston globe" reporter scot lehigh. he comes to us from boston. scot thanks for joining us here in "the war room." >> thank you for having me. >> michael: you work for the "boston globe." there ha
al qaeda spokesman alan ghaddan today this. >> in the west you have got a lot at your disposal. let's take america as an example. america is absolutely awash with easily obtainable firearms. you can go down to a gun show at the local convention center and come away with a fully automatic assault rifle without a background check and most likely without having to show an indication card. so what are you waiting for? >> michael: and the damn senate voted to allow this to continue. it's...
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qaeda that is the only policy they have but al qaeda is only a part of the problem the larger problem is the muslim brotherhood and macau we have empowered the regime which is the parent of al qaeda and tomas and every terrorist group and we have the power than the give and then money into the manpower we will look back at this period in the same way when we kicked the shot out of irene and and he has been one of the worst in vicious dictators in the world over the last century. a half to recognize radical islam is a problem and stop coddling islamic groups in this country that around the world we have to believe that democratic society it is not. they deny it as a dictatorship and muslim brotherhood believes in dictatorship of islam to take over the world. they may not take over that is what they believe in we should not be a party to it to espouse the of policies with the department of, and security we don't get it. >>. >> kinder score what they said that would be great but not to do with policy execution. fed is not a strategy we have to help train the military to help them with th
qaeda that is the only policy they have but al qaeda is only a part of the problem the larger problem is the muslim brotherhood and macau we have empowered the regime which is the parent of al qaeda and tomas and every terrorist group and we have the power than the give and then money into the manpower we will look back at this period in the same way when we kicked the shot out of irene and and he has been one of the worst in vicious dictators in the world over the last century. a half to...
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if you look at web sites that support al qaeda, they are celebrating this event. they're saying to the united states, you're weak. look at the united states. two of our brothers have got the united states tied up in knots costing them millions of dollars. this is what we're supposed to do. adam gadd dan, spokesperson for al qaeda, what he told everybody. the fatwa is alive. go out and kill americans wherever you find them. frankly do it without a lot of effort. neil: so, jack, just to bring my thick skull up to speed, you think there's going got to be a foreign connection, there has got to be a link to chechen group, islamist group, that these guys are not acting totally alone? >> what i'm saying there is distinct possibility. we don't know that. but that will be pretty much confirmed in the coming days. right now --. neil: but if there is, that alone, what does that tell you? >> well, it seems we have a new front because chechens haven't attack the united states. their effort has been independence and targeting russia. neil: but they got mad at us supporting russ
if you look at web sites that support al qaeda, they are celebrating this event. they're saying to the united states, you're weak. look at the united states. two of our brothers have got the united states tied up in knots costing them millions of dollars. this is what we're supposed to do. adam gadd dan, spokesperson for al qaeda, what he told everybody. the fatwa is alive. go out and kill americans wherever you find them. frankly do it without a lot of effort. neil: so, jack, just to bring my...
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when we manhunted al qaeda, i look at it more of a smaller group. there was not a lot of intelligence that came out. not a lot push about it. so i see this more probably as a very small group or cell. because the larger the group gets, the more chance you get to get information out. >> i have got to jump in. secretary of state john kerry is speaking now. let's listen in. >> and the rights of people are represented in many different ways. i ploebl stand here today to release again our human rights report. i want to thank -- i'm glad to be here with assistant secretary as we present this year's human rights reports. these reports send a very clear message that all governments have a responsibility to protect universal human rights. and they helped to blaze a path forward -- >> we're going to break into this. they're going over the annual human rights report. if he does make comments about the situation, we will obviously jump back in. i want to go back to you and ask the mayor what his gut instinct was. we have looked at social media pages. they had s
when we manhunted al qaeda, i look at it more of a smaller group. there was not a lot of intelligence that came out. not a lot push about it. so i see this more probably as a very small group or cell. because the larger the group gets, the more chance you get to get information out. >> i have got to jump in. secretary of state john kerry is speaking now. let's listen in. >> and the rights of people are represented in many different ways. i ploebl stand here today to release again...
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>> well, i don't think that canadians have the sort of military commission that we apply to al qaeda and taliban. they would go straight criminal process. neil: what if this -- god forbid, is more the trend, canadian thing, and arrest of this fellow in chicago last we week. i'm just i'm the one connecting the dots, but there is something bigger at play. you are talking about not only security but legal nightmare. >> yeah, i'm not sure of legal situation. as far as you know, situation right now, in the connections, that activity, but i tell you, where there is if you will missing ingredient. the kinetic response. law enforcement, phenomenal record since 9/11. where a collect of work needs to be done right now is countering that narrative, that mutant toxic form of al qaedaism, there is something that happens with young men who is susceptible and self motivates and self recruits to that kind of ideology, internet, a lot of different sources for that thing. there is a very important period though from right here in thinking about it to where it guess to a constructive step. so, that is
>> well, i don't think that canadians have the sort of military commission that we apply to al qaeda and taliban. they would go straight criminal process. neil: what if this -- god forbid, is more the trend, canadian thing, and arrest of this fellow in chicago last we week. i'm just i'm the one connecting the dots, but there is something bigger at play. you are talking about not only security but legal nightmare. >> yeah, i'm not sure of legal situation. as far as you know,...
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>>reporter: part of al qaeda play book. documents obtain from osama bin laden secret compound been urging follow investigators derail a train in the u.s. to kill passengers. >> thomas abc news washington. >> now authorities tell us that this plot is not connected to the boston bombings. rather they say it illustrates how diverse the threat from terrorism really is and continues to be. >> people across the nation observe moment of silence this afternoon at 2:50 eastern time exact moment 2 bomb exploded one week aago at the boston marathon. street of boston paused and 4 new york stock exchange fell silent in remembrance of the more than 200 people injured and the 4 people who lost their leaves and bombings and their aftermath. >> mean time the surviving bombing suspect has begun to communicate. one word he spoke today no. that was in response to whether he could afford a lawyer. he will have top notch legal representation. tsarnaev has the same lawyer who pt represented another accused terrorist. tsarnaev is telling officials
>>reporter: part of al qaeda play book. documents obtain from osama bin laden secret compound been urging follow investigators derail a train in the u.s. to kill passengers. >> thomas abc news washington. >> now authorities tell us that this plot is not connected to the boston bombings. rather they say it illustrates how diverse the threat from terrorism really is and continues to be. >> people across the nation observe moment of silence this afternoon at 2:50 eastern...
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we have seen al qaeda and iran plot against saudi targets. this is a new development but the idea that al qaeda in iran is not a new idea. they have long had a presence there. >> a marriage of convenience. >>> as tamerlan tsarnaev became radicalized did the u.s. miss key signals he was a threat. we will go live to moscow for more. >>> also ahead she is 5,000 miles from boston but feels the pain and shame for her family like it was right next door. in a timely fashion ojee and within budget. angie's list members can tell you which provider is the best in town. you'll find reviews on everything from home repair to healthcare. now that we're expecting, i like the fact that i can go onto angie's list and look for pediatricians. the service providers that i've found on angie's list actually have blown me away. join today and find out why over 1 million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. well, dad, i spent my childhood living with monks learning the art of dealmaking. you've mastered monkey-style kung fu? no. pric
we have seen al qaeda and iran plot against saudi targets. this is a new development but the idea that al qaeda in iran is not a new idea. they have long had a presence there. >> a marriage of convenience. >>> as tamerlan tsarnaev became radicalized did the u.s. miss key signals he was a threat. we will go live to moscow for more. >>> also ahead she is 5,000 miles from boston but feels the pain and shame for her family like it was right next door. in a timely fashion...
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al qaeda's playbook. documents obtained from osama bin laden's secret compound revealed he'd been urging followers to derail a train in the u.s., to kill passengers. >> and, pierre, the looming question -- any connection to boston at all, that we know of? >> i checked with sources tonight. they say no connection so far. >> no connection. so it appears to have been on an entirely separate track? >> entirely separate. and it shows, sources say, just how diverse the terrorism threat really is. >> all right, thanks, pierre. >>> now we turn next to the news tonight on the bombs at the boston marathon, one week ago today. today the city of boston paused at 2:50 p.m., the moment of the explosions, remembering the victims. and the latest thing tonight, we are told at abc news, that the surviving suspect has begun to communicate. abc's dan harris with that outside the hospital. dan? >> reporter: good evening. today in his room in the hospital behind me, dzhokhar tsarnaev had his first court appearance, surrounded
al qaeda's playbook. documents obtained from osama bin laden's secret compound revealed he'd been urging followers to derail a train in the u.s., to kill passengers. >> and, pierre, the looming question -- any connection to boston at all, that we know of? >> i checked with sources tonight. they say no connection so far. >> no connection. so it appears to have been on an entirely separate track? >> entirely separate. and it shows, sources say, just how diverse the...
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now, police tell us tonight the two suspects were getting support from al qaeda in iran. authorities say there's no link to the boston bombing. paula newton is in ottawa with the latest. paula, how close were they to actually carrying out the attack? >> reporter: erin, police are saying the attack was not imminent at all but say the threat was real that these people wanted to kill people, they wanted to hurt people. they were sensitive about the fact that the attack was not imminent. why? they were listening in on this plot and putting the pieces together, bugging their homes and cell phones to try to figure out what the plot was about. they were not canadian citizens and in the country several months and they were tipped off by the muslim community that they apparently led them to believe these two people were plotting something. they didn't know what and that gave them the tip off to bug them. congressman peter king says this was a train from toronto to new york. that's something that police here will not confirm for us. certainly chilling details about that kind of a m
now, police tell us tonight the two suspects were getting support from al qaeda in iran. authorities say there's no link to the boston bombing. paula newton is in ottawa with the latest. paula, how close were they to actually carrying out the attack? >> reporter: erin, police are saying the attack was not imminent at all but say the threat was real that these people wanted to kill people, they wanted to hurt people. they were sensitive about the fact that the attack was not imminent. why?...
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two men were getting direction and guidance from al qaeda members abroad. also today, this news clear plant in eastern tennessee, the watts bar nuclear power plant returned to normal status this afternoon following what the tennessee valley authority called an unusual event late saturday night. the unusual event was a shoot-out on the grounds of the nuclear plant at about 2:00 a.m. on saturday night, sunday morning. security officer at the nuclear plant was doing a routine perimeter patrol when he came across somebody on the grounds of the plant. he confronted the individual, whereupon the individual shot at him multiple times. he did not hit the security officer himself, but the vehicle the security officer was in was struck multiple times. the nuclear plant security officer then returned fire there is no sign that he hit the intruder. the intruder subsequently disappeared, probably by boat down the tennessee river. they have not found him. and that's all just in today's news cycle. everybody freak out. there is no reason to believe that any of these stori
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al qaeda. >> at that time, yes. he was put in jail because nobody knew who he was he was put in jail for visa violation. what happened also in 1999 and this came out in the trial of one of the master minds of 9/11 in hamburg the three mastermind pilots of 9/11 traveled to kandahar specifically to train to fight in chechnya. at that time the al qaeda leadership told them we have enough person in chechnya. we have other plans for you. so it goes really deeply. >> bret: general, i want to talk to you tactically. i know militarily is different than operationally inside the u.s. the challenge of trying to find this guy right now if he has had training and he is, you know, basically a dog backed up against a wall? >> well, hiding is one thing. and he can probably successfully hide for a period of time. but he has got to move at some point and then he is vulnerable. they all know that they have great surveillance out there. it's a matter of time in my mind until they get him. >> bret: he may have been injured in this fire
al qaeda. >> at that time, yes. he was put in jail because nobody knew who he was he was put in jail for visa violation. what happened also in 1999 and this came out in the trial of one of the master minds of 9/11 in hamburg the three mastermind pilots of 9/11 traveled to kandahar specifically to train to fight in chechnya. at that time the al qaeda leadership told them we have enough person in chechnya. we have other plans for you. so it goes really deeply. >> bret: general, i want...
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police are calling the plot al qaeda inspired. >>> and former new york congressman anthony weiner is turning a new leaf on twitter. you'll remember, he resigned from his post in 2011 after accidentally tweeting a sexually suggestive photo of himself. well, his first tweet back, a link to a 20-page paper on ways to keep new york, what he calls the capital of the middle class. weiner is considering a mayoral run this year. >>> well, an ohio zoo is seeing double. twin polar bears born at the toledo zoo made their debut yesterday. the brother and sister will be unveiled to the public next month, but for now, the zoo is hosting an online vote to name the adorable pair. and then they get really, really big. >>> in north dakota, a rookie news anchor was cut short after a serious slip of the tongue during his first broadcast. a.j. clemente apparently thought his mike was off as the show started, but his obscenity-laced muttering actually made the air. here it is. >> your news leader in high definition. >> gay [ bleep ]. >> good evening. you may have seen our newest reporter, a.j., on north d
police are calling the plot al qaeda inspired. >>> and former new york congressman anthony weiner is turning a new leaf on twitter. you'll remember, he resigned from his post in 2011 after accidentally tweeting a sexually suggestive photo of himself. well, his first tweet back, a link to a 20-page paper on ways to keep new york, what he calls the capital of the middle class. weiner is considering a mayoral run this year. >>> well, an ohio zoo is seeing double. twin polar bears...
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it may turn out to be that they are members of al qaeda or something like that. but right now, based on that initial interrogation, there isn't that. and in order to send someone to guantanamo and use a military commission, the person has to be a non-u.s. citizen, and of course the suspect here is a u.s. citizen. so this kind of talk has been thrown around. but there is no realistic possibility that this is a viable option. and as i say, as a practical matter, it's really something that has failed. i'm now in the private sector. and if i -- if someone came to me with a track record of the guantanamo military commissions, i think they would be fired, you know, at the get-go. >> one of the decisions that has been made thus far is that dzhokhar tsarnaev was mirandize ed today at his initial court appearance when the judge and the defense attorney came to him. but this apparently was after he had responded to questions from investigators before he was read his rights. the administration is citing the public safety exemption from the miranda warning as being the justi
it may turn out to be that they are members of al qaeda or something like that. but right now, based on that initial interrogation, there isn't that. and in order to send someone to guantanamo and use a military commission, the person has to be a non-u.s. citizen, and of course the suspect here is a u.s. citizen. so this kind of talk has been thrown around. but there is no realistic possibility that this is a viable option. and as i say, as a practical matter, it's really something that has...
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and so much of our effort has been focused on al qaeda related or al qaeda dictated or driven attacks. what we've seen so far, there is more to come out. these two gentlemen may have been radicalized but there are no direct lirngs to al qaeda so we'll step back and look at it from a muslim extremist perspective, are there other areas, other reasonings such as asia and chechnya, that we'll need to pay more attention to. >> so roger, quickly does that become an intelligence issue? is that an intelligence gathering issue? >> it is an intelligence issue but also a community issue. of the many plots disrupted around the united states, many were disrupted because of a tip-off from the local community to law enforcement. so we have focused so much on specific ethnic groups since 9/11 in terms of potential threats. maybe we need to open the aperture a little bit. not because the communities pose a threat to the united states but because there are individuals we need to pay attention to. >> when you talk about other groups, not al qaeda but other overseas groups that you might want to investig
and so much of our effort has been focused on al qaeda related or al qaeda dictated or driven attacks. what we've seen so far, there is more to come out. these two gentlemen may have been radicalized but there are no direct lirngs to al qaeda so we'll step back and look at it from a muslim extremist perspective, are there other areas, other reasonings such as asia and chechnya, that we'll need to pay more attention to. >> so roger, quickly does that become an intelligence issue? is that...
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sometimes these are al qaeda affiliates, people inspired by the same goals as al qaeda. well, other countries eventually will have armed drones and they can be using them against human rights activists. and we won't have a lot of moral ground to stand on. if we've been operating in the shadows. it goes back to 9/11. 9/11 happened. it was a horrible incident and the united states wasn't exactly prepared to deal with it. the military had plans for conventional war. didn't have plans for defeating a stateless organization that was more or less based in parts of afghanistan, allied with a group like the taliban. the cia took the lead. in these, in this war, drones became an enormous force. and the cia has continued with the drone program. there are people who are very uncomfortable with this, within the cia. it has caused problem for general intelligence gathering with other countries because now the cia is not just an intelligence agency. it is also a paramilitary agency. and there are plenty of people who would like the cia to give up this business, get it back into the ha
sometimes these are al qaeda affiliates, people inspired by the same goals as al qaeda. well, other countries eventually will have armed drones and they can be using them against human rights activists. and we won't have a lot of moral ground to stand on. if we've been operating in the shadows. it goes back to 9/11. 9/11 happened. it was a horrible incident and the united states wasn't exactly prepared to deal with it. the military had plans for conventional war. didn't have plans for defeating...
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these are the types of people that al qaeda and their franchises have been trying to radicalize and equip over the internet, through things like -- >> so, what is it they can tell these young men who are in america, have lived in america, what can they tell them, possibly, to get them to carry this out? is it just pure ideology? is that what it takes? >> well, they have this narrative that the west is attacking islam and they get these people to buy into it. a lot of times, these kids get kind of marginalized. sometimes they kind of grow up in a more secular environment and start to come back to their islamic roots and kind of be sucked in, you know, to this radicalism. and then we see them go off and, you know, start reading things, you know, these jihadi chat boards and things like "inspire" magazine. >> it is your sense, scott, that the older brother, the dead brother. he left the country for six months, apparently went back to russia. is it your sense that he took time, living in america since 2007, took time for six months to go to a training camp? >> it's very likely, but there, aga
these are the types of people that al qaeda and their franchises have been trying to radicalize and equip over the internet, through things like -- >> so, what is it they can tell these young men who are in america, have lived in america, what can they tell them, possibly, to get them to carry this out? is it just pure ideology? is that what it takes? >> well, they have this narrative that the west is attacking islam and they get these people to buy into it. a lot of times, these...
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of course it has nothing to do with islam, it's an al qaeda terrorist group. but they use religious, they distort it, and they make their killers. if he goes there for six months, he's probably communicating back with his handlers, and there's still a period of interaction, that ice probably making the bombs -- >> we should let people know we're seeing military assault vehicles and they seem to be well armed. they're driving in the area of cambridge where we believe there will be some sort of a controlled explosion because a device they found. i believe it was described as a pressure cooker type of device. which was used certainly in at least one of the boston marathon bombings. that first explosion they believe was a pressure cooker device. my apologies for interrupting. >> they're going to disrupt that device, they're going to use the bomb technicians from fbi or the massachusetts state police, they're going to disrupt it. atf has bomb technicians there as well. they've been i'm sure brainstorming it all morning. what they'll do is set a disrupter on it or s
of course it has nothing to do with islam, it's an al qaeda terrorist group. but they use religious, they distort it, and they make their killers. if he goes there for six months, he's probably communicating back with his handlers, and there's still a period of interaction, that ice probably making the bombs -- >> we should let people know we're seeing military assault vehicles and they seem to be well armed. they're driving in the area of cambridge where we believe there will be some...
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qaeda and al qaeda-inspired propaganda to try to recruit other individuals to the cause. although that is undoubtedly true, i have to say i think it is difficult to really connect any one individual with these conflicts. there is no doubt, again, pictures, video of civilians being killed and the like, this is exactly what al qaeda uses to help radicalize and bring people into the idealogical fold. but again, i think just pointing to iraq or afghanistan is a little bit too simplistic, because generally these radicalization cases come from a really dynamic mix of factors. >> and joy, the pause that i would put over all of this is, this all depends on you believing this suspect in this hospital bed, and i for one am going to reserve judgment on everything he's saying. >> yeah, and it's in his interest to say that it was the older brother, that it was the now deceased suspect who now cannot counter any of his claims. it is very much in his interest as a legal matter to say that he was following what the older brother was doing. so i think, yeah, we have to definitely take wha
qaeda and al qaeda-inspired propaganda to try to recruit other individuals to the cause. although that is undoubtedly true, i have to say i think it is difficult to really connect any one individual with these conflicts. there is no doubt, again, pictures, video of civilians being killed and the like, this is exactly what al qaeda uses to help radicalize and bring people into the idealogical fold. but again, i think just pointing to iraq or afghanistan is a little bit too simplistic, because...
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it is not just al qaeda that is about this. there is a lot of other groups that are violent jihadist and something that is called civiliation jihad. the premer on the muslim brotherhood's stradge -- strategic plan . the fact that the f.b.i. which we know interviewed one of the brothers about a year or so ago, failed to detect his jihadist impulse i would suggest in part because of the success of thization jihad that made it impermissible for the f.b.i. to know. they have had their files purged of information that give offense to these . that mines the f.b.i. is less able to deal with the threat and >> what should we do differently? i am nopt talking about the f.b.i., i am just talking about all of us. >> the first part of business is to learn what we are up against. the famous chinese strategist said you can't defeat an enemy you don't know. there is a wealth of material in places like that . the explanatory memorandum and introduced in evidence and takes them 15 minute to read it and it tells them what we are up against and gi
it is not just al qaeda that is about this. there is a lot of other groups that are violent jihadist and something that is called civiliation jihad. the premer on the muslim brotherhood's stradge -- strategic plan . the fact that the f.b.i. which we know interviewed one of the brothers about a year or so ago, failed to detect his jihadist impulse i would suggest in part because of the success of thization jihad that made it impermissible for the f.b.i. to know. they have had their files purged...
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qaeda affiliates. so, though the parents may individually feel great sorrow, you'll very often see them on television saying, i wish i had more than one child. and i think seeing what his family is saying, both his family that's still in russia as well as the family that is local, whether it's in toronto or if it's local in massachusetts, i think it must be very jarring for him. and like you said, maria, he's lost his older brother, and from all intents and purposes, what it looks like is that the older brother might have been the ring leader, just from the descriptions that we have, that he became more devout, he went back to russia, he felt alienated where as the younger brother was far more integrated into american society. >> right. right. mia, thank you very much. appreciate that. we will -- >> thank, mia. >> we'll talk to you soon. today's video of the manhunt seems like scenes from the film "u.s. marshals." up next, weaver joined by former united states marshal john clark. going to talk about wh
qaeda affiliates. so, though the parents may individually feel great sorrow, you'll very often see them on television saying, i wish i had more than one child. and i think seeing what his family is saying, both his family that's still in russia as well as the family that is local, whether it's in toronto or if it's local in massachusetts, i think it must be very jarring for him. and like you said, maria, he's lost his older brother, and from all intents and purposes, what it looks like is that...
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i think the biggest question will be whether there was any particular al qaeda driven plot behind the two brothers, especially has there has been a long-standing by the intelligence communities that al qaeda and the chechen rebels have worked together in the resource, intelligence and supply of weapons, and ultimately if it does have an al qaeda angle to it, this could be significantly concerning as this would be the first chechen-born or led attack on the united states. >> that is right. it has not happened before. and i want to bring in our terrific resource on things like this. when he was not read his miranda rights, how surprised? >> it's unusual. we know him and his brother were bomb makers and there are other bombs out there, and is there a greater conspiracy than two brothers? it's a great concern. the public safety exception was most appropriate under these circumstances. >> is this a one and done thing, they did not read him his miranda rights, and will that become an issue later on or not likely? >> it may be raised, but it's not going to affect the government to go forward
i think the biggest question will be whether there was any particular al qaeda driven plot behind the two brothers, especially has there has been a long-standing by the intelligence communities that al qaeda and the chechen rebels have worked together in the resource, intelligence and supply of weapons, and ultimately if it does have an al qaeda angle to it, this could be significantly concerning as this would be the first chechen-born or led attack on the united states. >> that is right....
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they have links to al qaeda in iran. the plot was disrupted before it become operational. >> lawyers for the state bar are scheduled to tell a san francisco judge today that east bay lawyer brown should be disbarred for smug illing out an alleged hit list from her client who is behind bars. the former muslim leader ordered the killings of two people. tones for the california state bar are recommending that the initial lawyer be stripped of her license. she was success spended if two years in 2011. >> and bars could move closer to 4:00 a.m. last call at a state hearing which is sponsored by a san francisco democrat and lets cities and counties petition the state to move the current 2:00 a.m. closing time back two hours to 4:00 a.m. and says the move would boost tourism but critics warn it could increase drunk driving and crime around the bars. the legislation wrote only affect bars and restaurants, liquor store hours would not change. >> investors will want to see how tarnished is apple's shine releasing the latest quarte
they have links to al qaeda in iran. the plot was disrupted before it become operational. >> lawyers for the state bar are scheduled to tell a san francisco judge today that east bay lawyer brown should be disbarred for smug illing out an alleged hit list from her client who is behind bars. the former muslim leader ordered the killings of two people. tones for the california state bar are recommending that the initial lawyer be stripped of her license. she was success spended if two years...
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qaeda camps in afghanistan but we've seen it with many other groups, including domestic groups, that you can go and buyed without arousing suspicion. the fuses with those are the simplest kind of detonation system that you can think of and it was -- it's going to be very interesting when he threw this device at police what it was that set it off. it doesn't seem like the kind of thing where you have time to light a fuse and toss it. it would be very hard to do a remote control detonation. is but that must have been-- however he arranged it-- some incredible scene like war in the streets. >> pelley: it sounded like a war in the videotape that we had. so many people asked me why a pressure cooker. these are six qaurt pressure cookers, the kind that you find in kitchens all across america. you can get them at wal-mart or any place else. what's so special about that? >> a couple of things. number one, frankly, if you go into home depot and say "i want ten metal pipes and 20 end caps for each side" somebody's going to think you might be making a pipe bomb-- or ten of them. but if you go t
qaeda camps in afghanistan but we've seen it with many other groups, including domestic groups, that you can go and buyed without arousing suspicion. the fuses with those are the simplest kind of detonation system that you can think of and it was -- it's going to be very interesting when he threw this device at police what it was that set it off. it doesn't seem like the kind of thing where you have time to light a fuse and toss it. it would be very hard to do a remote control detonation. is...
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they get al qaeda. >> yeah. >> and what happens is al qaeda has this process, this gentle persuasion where they believe that they are really -- they convince themselves. i mean, it's not brainwash. they convince themselves. once they start inculcating them, you know, khalid shaikh mohammed said it, that the most important thing to be a member of al qaeda was not whether you could speak a foreign language, military training, your ability to shoot a gun, or make a bomb. the most important thing was your willingness for self-sacrifice. that's how you get in. and that's what they've built that cult on. now, in the last few years, it's diminished with -- diminished with -- because we diminished al qaeda and bin laden. so it's diminished but it's not gone away. >> let me go back to roger cressi because we don't want to generalize on here. i like to find patterns. it's easier if you can figure out what is going on and everything being phenomenal and chaotic, you'd like to think -- when people are willing to kill people by the numbers, lots of people, it's usually a deep religious thing, lik
they get al qaeda. >> yeah. >> and what happens is al qaeda has this process, this gentle persuasion where they believe that they are really -- they convince themselves. i mean, it's not brainwash. they convince themselves. once they start inculcating them, you know, khalid shaikh mohammed said it, that the most important thing to be a member of al qaeda was not whether you could speak a foreign language, military training, your ability to shoot a gun, or make a bomb. the most...
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this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic extremists groups. >> it does seem that like jose padilla there might have been anger there about chechnya and using that as a rationale for joining jihady movements. having said that. one of the things that gets pointed out continuously is that if you are chechen, your beef is with russia and not the united states. >> yes but to a point. remember, chris, it's not just the chechnya conflict that was involved here. dagestan is really the far more important place to look. let's keep chechnya to the side. it's dagestan where he went. he probably was not just visiting
this would be the al qaeda in the caucasus branch of al qaeda. we even know that the number two was there in 1997. there are several groups in chechnya and dagestan that have been deemed terrorists organizations by the united states and there are laws and insurgencies in those countries in those republics that resulted in so many bad attacks on russia we should have a certain amount of sympathy for what russia has gone through as a result of al qaeda's orientated attacks by the islamic...
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there they made connections with essentially al qaeda in other cities in saudi arabia. they themselves radicalized the clerics. the same clerics are back in dagestan trying to raise resistance against russia and chechnya. it would be inevitable he would run in to fallacies/al qaeda, whatever you want to call it. whether they gave him instructions to go to boston and set up these explosions, i don't know but he certainly would have learned more about this ideology there and i think it's a good chance he was further radicalized and decided maybe on his own, maybe with somebody's help to turn to violence. >> you say you have experience making these devices. it is not something you can just read about on the internet? the information is out there on the internet but you are saying it is not something you can read about on the internet and put together and maybe test here domestically? >> anderson, two years ago, i went down to huntsville, alabama. the atf put me through a course and let me observe it and there were explosives experts from afghanistan and iraq, american sold
there they made connections with essentially al qaeda in other cities in saudi arabia. they themselves radicalized the clerics. the same clerics are back in dagestan trying to raise resistance against russia and chechnya. it would be inevitable he would run in to fallacies/al qaeda, whatever you want to call it. whether they gave him instructions to go to boston and set up these explosions, i don't know but he certainly would have learned more about this ideology there and i think it's a good...
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so that means chechens went abroad and joined al qaeda-type groups. and also funds and ideology came into the chechen uprising and that's when they began their cam page of suicide bombings. they didn't ever have this in their past. chechens don't follow any of these extremist movements except for the rebel movement. and i think that possibly in his trip to dagestan, the older one was introduced extremist thoughts and generalized view of the narrative for these groups is muslims are under attack all over the world, we have to strike western powers. and we did see on his website that tamerlan was feeling great sympathy for the syrians who also are facing a heavy-handed fist right now in their uprising. >> dan, we read today in the "wall street journal" tamerlan tsarnaev nearly wore out his welcome at a local mosque in cambridge. he reportedly got angry over the celebration of martin luther king day. he even got angry at a butcher who was selling thanksgiving turkeys. what does that say to you about his mindset? >> well, it's clear looking at it from an
so that means chechens went abroad and joined al qaeda-type groups. and also funds and ideology came into the chechen uprising and that's when they began their cam page of suicide bombings. they didn't ever have this in their past. chechens don't follow any of these extremist movements except for the rebel movement. and i think that possibly in his trip to dagestan, the older one was introduced extremist thoughts and generalized view of the narrative for these groups is muslims are under attack...
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the two suspects in the first known al qaeda terrorist plot in court head to court. canadian authorities carried out two men that wanted to carry out a major terrorist attack on a passenger train from toronto to new york. both men are believed to have ties to an al qaeda cell based in iran and have been under surveillance since august. a bail hearing is set for today in toronto. >> a prominent defense attorney fighting to keep her law license after admitting to smuggling out of jail a hit list for her client. lor lorna brown going before the state bar for an administrative trial. confessing to hiding a hand-written note in her legal papers after visiting him in 2010. that note contained a list of people whom bay allegedly wanted dead. he was convicted of ordering the murders of oakland journalist, chauncey bailey and two other men in 2007. brown could be disbarred for the offense. >>> a san francisco city attorney wants to know why dozens of mentally ill patients are being shipped to the bay area. published reports claiming the psychiatric hospital in las vegas busse
the two suspects in the first known al qaeda terrorist plot in court head to court. canadian authorities carried out two men that wanted to carry out a major terrorist attack on a passenger train from toronto to new york. both men are believed to have ties to an al qaeda cell based in iran and have been under surveillance since august. a bail hearing is set for today in toronto. >> a prominent defense attorney fighting to keep her law license after admitting to smuggling out of jail a hit...
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because they say al qaeda has had a presence since 2001. >>> a mississippi man accused of sending ricen to president barack obama and a judge. some say he should be released because there is no physical evidence linking him to the crime. investigators announced that they did finds -- excuse me, they did not find rice end or the ingredients during a search of his home. his computers also failed to turn up any evidence and fbi is looking for an external hard drive. >>> they are looking for homeland security about immigration reform. and as kyla campbell reports, this follows yesterday's heated hearing, kyla campbell? >> reporter: dave, homeland security -- secretary of homeland security janet napolitano will testify in front of dianne finestein and the rest of the judiciary committee. they are skeptical of the bill proposed last week and they will question secretary of homeland security janet napolitano on border security. the borders must be secure before they allow any of the 11 million undocumented immigrants in to become citizens. it was postponed because of the boston marathon invest
because they say al qaeda has had a presence since 2001. >>> a mississippi man accused of sending ricen to president barack obama and a judge. some say he should be released because there is no physical evidence linking him to the crime. investigators announced that they did finds -- excuse me, they did not find rice end or the ingredients during a search of his home. his computers also failed to turn up any evidence and fbi is looking for an external hard drive. >>> they are...
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this was not like an al qaeda operation. which would involve suicide bombers, aimed at high-priority targets and there's a statement that they're trying to make. this is still a lot different from those type of attacks. >> and because it's different and also there are two, there are two suspects here. one is deceased. and one seems to have to have have been based on the evidence we've seen so far, been more radical in terms of having more of a jihadist mentality. the 19-year-old, the one who is still alive, dzhokhar tsarnaev, seems to have been less, i think ideologic ideological, if you will. based on the evidence that we have. and i wonder, frank, there's this idea of mercy in american society. and the "boston herald" in today's paper writes we know he's 19 years old, we don't think he has a criminal record. there are a lot of people out there who seem to have warm, positive things to say about him. to predict he'll get a life sentence is not unreasonable. there are democrats who have said, republicans and democrats who ha
this was not like an al qaeda operation. which would involve suicide bombers, aimed at high-priority targets and there's a statement that they're trying to make. this is still a lot different from those type of attacks. >> and because it's different and also there are two, there are two suspects here. one is deceased. and one seems to have to have have been based on the evidence we've seen so far, been more radical in terms of having more of a jihadist mentality. the 19-year-old, the one...
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support from al qaeda in iran. i can tell you that there's no information to indicate that these attacks were state sponsored. >> authorities say the two men arrested are not canadian citizens but declined to comment on their nationality. they also said there's no connection to the boston bombings. tom foreman has more on the canadian terror plot from cnn washington. >> reporter: the target for this alleged terror plot was the via train system in canada. it's an inner city connecting system. it's used by 4 million canadians. it's from toronto and montreal. in fact, that's where these two men were arrested. this is what authorities say they were up to, that they were watching trains coming into and out of toronto surveying the tracks, surveying the trains themselves, looking for a weak spot that they could attack and try to derail a train. this is one of the very, very busy hubs there. if i take you down to street level you can see just exactly how urbanized this area might be. this is the via train sign telling you
support from al qaeda in iran. i can tell you that there's no information to indicate that these attacks were state sponsored. >> authorities say the two men arrested are not canadian citizens but declined to comment on their nationality. they also said there's no connection to the boston bombings. tom foreman has more on the canadian terror plot from cnn washington. >> reporter: the target for this alleged terror plot was the via train system in canada. it's an inner city...
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or an al-qaeda-like group. what we don't know is was the older brother, damage -- tamerlan, did he have international ties, was he recruited by an al-qaeda group or al-qaeda-like group and given the expertise to do what he did or was he literally in russia on sort of a summer vacation checking things out? we don't know that. we have to count on our government knowing that. i would be, you know, sort of bent toward calling them an enemy combatant unless and until you have done enough to tell you that they have no connections i- like you said, we don't know what our government knows and doesn't know in this investigation. but would you find it unusual for us not to know what he was doing in the six months, at least not today? i assume that we have spread out across russia where he was and at least piece it had together by now? >> well, i'm not certain we have piece it had together. we don't know again how much cooperation there is between the russians and the fbi or other intelligence agencies. but i find it lard
or an al-qaeda-like group. what we don't know is was the older brother, damage -- tamerlan, did he have international ties, was he recruited by an al-qaeda group or al-qaeda-like group and given the expertise to do what he did or was he literally in russia on sort of a summer vacation checking things out? we don't know that. we have to count on our government knowing that. i would be, you know, sort of bent toward calling them an enemy combatant unless and until you have done enough to tell you...
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the administration remains squarely focused on the threat posed by al qaeda and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. joining us is white house correspondent for "the new republic" julia faffi. we know you've written about this for some time. and a lot of folks do not understand the dynamics between the u.s. and russia at present. but really more specifically, russia and chechnya. as we talk about what has happened in and around the chechnyian separatist movement it bears mentioning and "u.s.a. today" mentions this that the russian army played a role in radicalizing chechen separatist movements, tell us a little of the history between these two states. >> in the history how recent this is, in the late 18th century, the russian empire invaded the region and this radicalized it. later, joseph stalin drew the borders in such a way that made an ethnic hodge-podge of the region. he suppressed a chechen rebellion by deporting the entire chechen population to central asia, a deeply radicalizing experience, as much as a third or a half of the chechen population died there. in the '90s and early 20
the administration remains squarely focused on the threat posed by al qaeda and al qaeda in the arabian peninsula. joining us is white house correspondent for "the new republic" julia faffi. we know you've written about this for some time. and a lot of folks do not understand the dynamics between the u.s. and russia at present. but really more specifically, russia and chechnya. as we talk about what has happened in and around the chechnyian separatist movement it bears mentioning and...
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but they may have had interaction via the web and the internet with al qaeda's ideology, with al qaeda websites. which in the process of radicalization, gave them targets that they would not have thought of before. and that that target became america and everything about the united states of america. >> and from your knowledge, there was a conversation between vladimir putin and president obama on friday night, a pledge of more cooperation. but the fact is, that over the past few years, there has not been a whole lot of cooperation between the russian security services and our intelligence services. >> no. and let's be honest about what's going on in chechnya. under mr. putin, there have been horrendous human rights violations in chechnya. the country has been occupied and brutalized by russian forces for the last decade and more. that's not to excuse chechen terrorism. the chechen terrorists have carried out absolutely horrible acts of terror against movie houses, against schools, but what we've seen in chechnya is a growing radicalization of the population under the oppression that t
but they may have had interaction via the web and the internet with al qaeda's ideology, with al qaeda websites. which in the process of radicalization, gave them targets that they would not have thought of before. and that that target became america and everything about the united states of america. >> and from your knowledge, there was a conversation between vladimir putin and president obama on friday night, a pledge of more cooperation. but the fact is, that over the past few years,...
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a ballot they believe had ties to al qaeda overseas. >> the individuals were receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran, i can tell you, this there is no information to indate that these attacks were state sponsored. lou: the royal mounted canadian police stressing at no point during the invest visio investie public in danger. lou: we bin with the investigation of boston marathon bombing now focused on the tsarnaev bother, former complain disclosed strong video evidence that 19-year-old dzhokhar tsarnaev and his older brother carried out the attacks, meanwhile, authorities still searching for any connection between the brothers and overseas terrorist organizations. fox news chief intelligence correspondent katherine with our report. >> reporter: some of the most compelling preliminary evidence comes from surveillance video and an eye witness, during the carjacking thursday night, one of the brothers said quote, did you hear about the boston explosion, i did that. court records filed show that tsarnaev bro ther eithers walke- brothers walked into boylston street together,
a ballot they believe had ties to al qaeda overseas. >> the individuals were receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran, i can tell you, this there is no information to indate that these attacks were state sponsored. lou: the royal mounted canadian police stressing at no point during the invest visio investie public in danger. lou: we bin with the investigation of boston marathon bombing now focused on the tsarnaev bother, former complain disclosed strong video evidence that...
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i agree with the analysis that being part of al qaeda creates an eligibility. i don't think being part of general hatred of the united states is nearly enough. where i slightly disagree, there's a supreme court decision, the one you were referring to, chris, involving the nazis. one of whom was a u.s. citizen. the crimes were perpetrated to be for u.s. soil. bottom line, this is not a case for enemy combatants, and there so many horrible crimes committed. if we start throwing the constitution out, we're going to lose the real war for our values. >> let's talk about the issue a lot of people have been talking about. not everybody, but some. miranda rights. we've watched enough detective shows no know, police shows, they give miranda rights almost like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. it's done. why do you think that's an issue? now we just got the word as we went on the air tonight the defendant here, the suspect, i guess he's a defendant now, has been given his miranda rights. >> this is truly something of an urban legend. people like to watch shows where a crimin
i agree with the analysis that being part of al qaeda creates an eligibility. i don't think being part of general hatred of the united states is nearly enough. where i slightly disagree, there's a supreme court decision, the one you were referring to, chris, involving the nazis. one of whom was a u.s. citizen. the crimes were perpetrated to be for u.s. soil. bottom line, this is not a case for enemy combatants, and there so many horrible crimes committed. if we start throwing the constitution...
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you know, chechen rebels did train in the afghan camps, the al qaeda camps, for a number of years. but, you know, they have also flocked against the government. you have got that. what we see over the last years is you don't have to go to a training camp. i'm torn on this. until we see the two guys who became disenfranchised, or is there some other bigger thing pushing this? >> simon? you want in on the conversation. >> some young lunatic who wants to make a name of yourself. waiting for the controlled explosion of the house they used to inhabit. is that for sure an indication that they found explosives there or is that being precautionary? >> i think you have got to be very -- you can't jump to conclusions. this may be nothing more than two knuckle heads who became disillusioned with the world. that is the 800 pound elephant in the room. you have to look at that. with respect to the controlled explosions, i would suspect they found something in the houses and they're methodically going to eliminate that threat. >> can you tell us when you were vol fed with the fbi what level of co
you know, chechen rebels did train in the afghan camps, the al qaeda camps, for a number of years. but, you know, they have also flocked against the government. you have got that. what we see over the last years is you don't have to go to a training camp. i'm torn on this. until we see the two guys who became disenfranchised, or is there some other bigger thing pushing this? >> simon? you want in on the conversation. >> some young lunatic who wants to make a name of yourself....
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i know they fought alongside al qaeda in afghanistan but not here in this country. again, i think we do have to look carefully to make sure there are no other coconspirators or accomplices and find out what happened on the trip to russia last year. >> congressman, do you have any information about possible travel outside the country by dzhokhar? we know about his older brother traveling to russia in 2012. do you know anything about any other travel by the older brother or any travel outside the country by the man that authorities are looking for so intensely right now? >> jake, i'm not aware of any of that travel and i don't know of anyone who is on to that. i know that is one thing we looked at carefully. my understanding is as of now there is no evidence that the younger brother has traveled outside the country at all. >> obviously events are unfolding and not everything on the internet is necessarily accurate but on the older brother's purported youtube account, we don't know if we're 100% sure it is his but on what is believed to be his youtube account he posted
i know they fought alongside al qaeda in afghanistan but not here in this country. again, i think we do have to look carefully to make sure there are no other coconspirators or accomplices and find out what happened on the trip to russia last year. >> congressman, do you have any information about possible travel outside the country by dzhokhar? we know about his older brother traveling to russia in 2012. do you know anything about any other travel by the older brother or any travel...
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on monday two men were arrested and charged with receiving reports from al qaeda networks to bomb a canadian railway line. the chairman of the counter terrorism and intelligence subcommittee says the train was bound from canada to the u.s. >> the individuals were receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran. >> thank you. >> now, i can tell you that there is no information to indicate that these attacks were state sponsored. >> authorities say these two men arrested are not canadian citizens but declined to comment on their nationality. >> he said there is no connection to the boston marathon bombing. tom foreman has more. >> the target for this alleged terror plot was the train system in canada. it is an intercity connecting system. in fact, that is where the two men were arrested. this is what authorities say they were up to watching trains coming into and out of toronto, surveying the trains themselves looking for a weak spot that they could attack and try to derail a train. this is a very, very busy hub there. you can see just exactly how urbanized this area might be. this wa
on monday two men were arrested and charged with receiving reports from al qaeda networks to bomb a canadian railway line. the chairman of the counter terrorism and intelligence subcommittee says the train was bound from canada to the u.s. >> the individuals were receiving support from al qaeda elements located in iran. >> thank you. >> now, i can tell you that there is no information to indicate that these attacks were state sponsored. >> authorities say these two men...